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Re: PID meeting 14/15 of May
Hi Elke,
From Indiana, Beni, Alex, and I will be there. Mihajlo will
certainly join in discussion by phone. We will have a local mtg.
here Wed to evaluate our progress and discuss our talks, but they
will be along the lines of what you suggest. We can then give you
names/topics of people to put on the agenda.
-Matt
On May 7, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
> Hall D PID Mail List:
>
> On Mon, 7 May 2007, Zisis Papandreou wrote:
>
> Dear Zisis,
>
> thanks for the quick answer. I think a report on the status quo
> would be a
> good thing, because it will help to discuss how to improve things.
> Mihajlo
> if you are ready to present your findings on the bcal photon
> reconstruction, absolutely perfect and more than welcome.
>
> I have reserved a room with a standard jlab polycom system for both
> days,
> so things should work, nicer than with my DESY (!) laptop.
>
> cheers elke
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:10:11 -0600
>> From: Zisis Papandreou <zisis@uregina.ca>
>> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
>> Cc: halld-pid@jlab.org, halld-cal@jlab.org
>> Subject: Re: PID meeting 14/15 of May
>>
>> Hi Elke:
>>
>> just a clarification of what you expect from us at Regina.
>>
>> Under item 1, BCAL reconstruction, the only thing we can present is
>> the status quo of the effort at Regina, as of July 2006. There has
>> been no work done since then. Mihajlo at IU is starting to work on
>> the BCAL reconstruction, so we need to hear from him if he will have
>> something to present by May 14. Nevertheless, it may be instructive
>> for me to give a short reminder on the work that had been done in
>> Regina, by our long gone postdocs.
>>
>> Also, what sort of system will we have for video conferencing? If it
>> is something decent (not Evo through your laptop), then maybe Blake
>> and Christina can present their own work. If not, then George and I
>> need to work with them towards the two of us giving the
>> presentations.
>>
>> Please let us know what you expect for all this.
>>
>> Thanks, Zisis...
>>
>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> next week Monday and Tuesday is close and i think we need an agenda
>>> for
>>> the meeting. Following the developments and efforts in the last
>>> weeks,
>>> I think an agenda should look roughly like this.
>>>
>>> 1. pi0 reconstruction in the calorimeters Monday morning /
>>> early afternoon
>>>
>>> FCAL status of simulation and reconstruction of photons/pi0
>>> Mihajlo
>>> BCAL
>>> status of simulation and reconstruction of photons/pi0 George/
>>> Zisis
>>> analysis of test beam data George/
>>> Zisis
>>> analysis of cosmic data Christina
>>>
>>> 2. TOF Monday afternoon
>>> -- tof wall Matt/Beni
>>> status of simulation and test beam measurements
>>> what momentum resolution do we need, plans
>>>
>>> -- Bcal
>>> analysis of test beam data Blake
>>>
>>> Tuesday morning
>>>
>>> 3. what does the new material in the FCs do to shower
>>> reconstruction Richard
>>>
>>> 4. Kaon identification Eugene
>>> --- what does a cerenkov or a rich give us
>>> --- do we need Kaon identification in the non-forward regime
>>> --- what will kinematic fitting and strangeness conservation
>>> help us
>>>
>>> Discussions:
>>>
>>> 5. What needs/can be done till the calorimeter July meeting
>>>
>>> 6. when are we ready for a PID review
>>>
>>>
>>> I know I have assigned people as speakers without asking, this are
>>> only
>>> suggestions, of course things can be changed. Just complain to me
>>> and I
>>> will update things.
>>>
>>> cheers elke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:10:32 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
>>>> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
>>>> Cc: halld-pid@jlab.org, halld-cal@jlab.org
>>>> Subject: PID meeting 14/15 of May
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> as preparation for the PID meeting I list here some points, also
>>>> discussed with Eugene and Alex.
>>>> I think to have answers to some of the point is crucial to make
>>>> the PID
>>>> meeting useful.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Have the BCAL TOF analysis for the different angles and
>>>> positions along
>>>> the bcal module taken
>>>> ----> having this information is really critical, because it
>>>> will allow
>>>> us to see what type of pion - kaon separation we have for
>>>> big
>>>> angles.
>>>>
>>>> 2. It would be also very nice to have some information from the
>>>> BCal
>>>> cosmic data.
>>>> ----> I think I have understood correctly that the cosmic data
>>>> have not
>>>> only be sampled for 90 degree but also other angles.
>>>> This will help us to see the fluctuations in light yield,
>>>> which
>>>> should influence also the time of flight
>>>>
>>>> 3. For the threshold Cerenkov, it is important to see what is
>>>> really
>>>> the suppression factor we can achieve and for some golden
>>>> processes it
>>>> is also important to see how often is the Kaon really in the
>>>> Cerenkov.
>>>> ----> because depending on the suppression factor we might
>>>> need to
>>>> think about an different concept than a threshold
>>>> cerenkov and
>>>> if we cannot separate Kaon and pion's with the bcal
>>>> tof, we
>>>> might want to think about an additional detector at big
>>>> angles
>>>>
>>>> 4. we need some better characterization for dE/dx from the CDC
>>>>
>>>> 5. On the software front it would be nice to get some TOF
>>>> responses into
>>>> the MC
>>>>
>>>> 6. to study the impact of kinematical fits/constraints it would be
>>>> good
>>>> to get the bcal photon/pi0 reconstruction in the MC working.
>>>>
>>>> And last but not least we have to determine some golden reactions
>>>> which we
>>>> want to test the pid performance on, but even more important we
>>>> need
>>>> simulations with background.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure a lot of more can be added, but I think it is good to
>>>> start with
>>>> the minimum requirements.
>>>>
>>>> cheers elke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> ---
>> Dr. Zisis Papandreou | email: zisis@uregina.ca
>> Department of Physics | tel. : (306) 585-5379
>> University of Regina | tel. : (306) 585-4149
>> Regina, SK S4S 0A2 | fax. : (306) 585-5659
>> World Wide Web: http://www.phys.uregina.ca/sparro/zisis/
>>
>>
>>
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