Hi Tim: There are a number of issues here that need careful study before we commit one way or another. First, the easy one: To machine a stainless steel layer to accept grooves for SciFi's is neither easy nor really necessary. A flat plate on top of the last grooved lead sheet with enough epoxy to fill the grooves under pressure will work better. We can use a much stronger industrial epoxy that will adhere very strongly to the lead without worrying about the fibers being destroyed by the chemicals in the epoxy. Now the tough part. If the steel or tungsten glued on the inner face of the BCAL is of sufficient thickness to protect it and to add stiffness to the structure, we will have to model it and predict what its effect will be on low energy photons that are proving so important for the GlueX physics. On the other hand, if we opt for an increased ratio of SciFi to Pb structure, we may have to use a pre-radiator (like tungsten) to reduce electromagnetic leakage out the back, so this may be the best solution. I can see the use of a protective layer to avoid damage to the soft inner layer of the BCAL, however, even if we get some damage on the lead surface, it does not alter any of the functions of the BCAL or causes any damage. As for stiffness, the Pb/epoxy/SciFi structure is very stiff and the whole thing glued on the Al plate with stiffening ribs in the back, I don't know how much do we really gain by adding steel. The bottom line is that we need MC simulations to tell us what we can tolerate or want and what price we'll pay on the physics, if any. Our graduate student here will model all these possibilities and then we can revisit the issue with better information to proceed. Cheers, GeorgeTim Whitlatch <whitey@jlab.org> 11/06/07 7:02 AM >>>Hi George and Zisis, If you remember back a couple of months, we discussed using a stainless steel layer on the inner most layer of the barrel calorimeter wedges for additional stiffness. If this was to take the place of lead, what thickness would we want to use (the thicker, the better for stiffness)? Of course we would have to have grooves machined to accept the fibers.This would also serve as a protective layer for assy and installation. Cheers, Tim