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Re: CDC prototype



1pm is fine for Curtis, Gary and me.

Cheers,
 	Yves
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Tim Whitlatch wrote:

> I apologize. As it turns out, I have Dry runs for Tagger review in the
> morning. How about 1pm on Friday instead?
> 
> Tim
> 
> Curtis A. Meyer wrote:
>
>  Friday at 10:00 works for Curtis as well --  Curtis
> On Tue November 4 2008, Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
> 
>
>  Hi Tim,
> 
> Friday 10am is good for both Gary and me. I believe it might be a problem 
> for Curtis as he teaches on Friday mornings if I am not mistaken.
> 
> Cheers,
>  	Yves
>
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> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Tim Whitlatch wrote:
>
> 
>
>  Thanks Yves,
> 
> We can discuss some of the ideas maybe later in the week. Are you, Gary and 
> Curtis available Friday 10am?
> 
> Tim
> 
> Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
> 
>
>  Hi All,
> 
> I had some discussion with Gary and I can list some things we learned by 
> wiring up this prototype:
> 
> - The teflon wires are very stiff and difficult to handle, all the wires 
> have the same length at the moment - it would make things easier if all 
> wires have different lengths dependent on the distance: connector-wire.
>   --> use different cable?
> 
> 
> - It would be good to glue the pin in the pinholder (add one drip of glue) 
> after stringing the wires. In this way it is not so easy to break a wire if 
> something goes wrong with connecting the cables to it. We plan to do this 
> in the future.
> 
> 
> - Due to the fact that 8 straws are not read out (the preamp now has only 
> 16 channels) the mapping is messed up (those 8 straws have to be on the 
> edges) - this did not make things easier.
> 
> 
> Overall it was not easy to cable those straws up and more thinking is 
> needed. We also plan on building a model to test more possibilies. Our 
> priority at the moment is to finish the new prototype first.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>     Yves
>
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> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
>
> 
>
>  Hi Tim,
> 
> I believe not - but I am not 100% sure - we plan to build something larger 
> to simulate the real situation.
> 
> Cheers,
>     Yves
>
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>     /~/_|  |_\~\      /      Carnegie Mellon University
>    |____________|    /        Department of Physics
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> 
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Tim Whitlatch wrote:
>
> 
>
>  Thanks Yves,
> 
> In the pictures it looks like the conductive rubber sleeves are highly 
> strained. Also, was all the wiring done from 1 side to simulate the 
> actual situation?
> 
> Thanks,
>
>      Tim
> 
> Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
> 
>
>  Hi Tim,
> 
> Unfortunately Gary is sick at the moment and I was not here when the 
> wiring was done. But this is what I know:
>
> 
>
>  How did the wiring to the crimp pins go?
> 
>
>  It was a bit painful because of a weird mapping: 8 channels will not be 
> read out at first - so those had to go to the edges. We used Teflon 
> cables because those are better protected for soldering but they are 
> stiffer. The cables all have the same length and there is discussion to 
> make the lengths variable.
>
> 
>
>  What order was the assembly done in (wires soldered to connector first?
> 
>
>  First the connector is made gas tight. Then the wires are soldered to it 
> and marked plus the conductive booties are attached to the cables. I 
> believe then the connector is screwed on the end plenum and the wires 
> are moves over the crimp pins.
>
> 
>
>  then connector secured and then wires connected to crimp pins)? How 
> much sca for doing this between plexiglass and crimp pins?
> 
>
>  The thickness of the end plenum is 2 inch, the length of the cables is 3 
> inch - they could have been shorter if not for this weird mapping.
> 
> We believe that this method is not the perfect one and should be 
> improved. As soon Gary is here we have more info.
> 
> Cheers,
>     Yves
> 
>
> 
>
>  Thanks,
>
>      Tim
>
> 
> 
> 
>