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Re: Calorimeter Review and Monitoring/Calibration



On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:

Dear Christina,

I looked through the slides in a bit more detail.
One question coming always up with all this calibration and gain
monitoring systems.
How stable are they. Do you have already some idea on the stability of the
systems, like drifts per day or ....
Even if you measure "only" relative gain drifts, some reference
detectors are needed, did you already select some technology. In HERMES
we actually used 2 different types, just as a small reference

A gain monitoring system with Nd:YAG Laser for the Photomultipliers of
the HERMES experiment
H.Tanaka et al
Nucl. Instrum. and Meth. A 515 (2003) 725

The other question which might come up, where do we want to couple the
light in, in the photomultipliers / sipmts or in the scifi / lead-glass or
in both. I know for the BCal we talked about coupling the light into the
winston cones.
I was just thinking one or 2 slides if at all possible on how the system
might be integrated into the detector layouts might be nice. But if there
is no clear concept yet also fine, it is work in progress, so we have not
to be 100% complete.

cheers elke



> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:18:43 -0500 (EST)
> From: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> To: Christina Kourkoumeli <hkourkou@phys.uoa.gr>
> Cc: Alex Dzierba <dzierba@indiana.edu>, halld-cal@jlab.org
> Subject: Re: Calorimeter Review and Monitoring/Calibration
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Christina Kourkoumeli wrote:
>
> Dear Christine,
>
> I just wanted to answer quickly, first of all thank you very very much for
> the slides. I will go through them in a bit more detail tonight and send
> you remarks if I have any.
>
> George, please don't include them in your talk, the slides are thought as
> backup if we get questions. Such we are consitent with the FCal talk.
>
> One small remarks we will not print backup slides, apart from we get an
> explicit request to do so.
>
> Cheers and thanks to everyboody
> elke
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:39:11 +0200 (EET)
> > From: Christina Kourkoumeli <hkourkou@phys.uoa.gr>
> > To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> > Cc: Alex Dzierba <dzierba@indiana.edu>, halld-cal@jlab.org
> > Subject: Re: Calorimeter Review and Monitoring/Calibration
> >
> > Dear all,
> > please find attached a few slides about the calibration+monitoring system.
> >                    Good luck with the review,
> >                       Christine
> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Alex Dzierba wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Alex,
> > >
> > > I know and I have asked Christina to generate slides on the calibration
> > > system we are currently studying, so we can use them if the question
> > > comes up. Beni will prepare a slide as backup addressing showing the
> > > calibration system of radphi and E852, this show we have even 2 solutions
> > > for the FCal if the common system for FCal, Bcal and Tof would not work.
> > >
> > > cheers elke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:32:59 -0500
> > >> From: Alex Dzierba <dzierba@indiana.edu>
> > >> To: halld-cal@jlab.org
> > >> Subject: Calorimeter Review and Monitoring/Calibration
> > >>
> > >> Hi All
> > >>
> > >> I just realized that neither the Calorimeter CDR document nor
> > >> the BCAL/FCAL talks address the issue of monitoring and calibration.
> > >> This is a natural question for the reviewers to ask and we should
> > >> address it.
> > >>
> > >> Alex
> > >> --
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