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Re: Tracking Preamp phone meeting proposal



Hall D Electronics:


Wenesday between 10am and 6pm  is OK by me. I have a slight preference 
for 2 or 3pm to have enough time to keep our student laborers on track.  
- Mitch



John Schaapman wrote:
> Hall D Electronics:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>    It would be very usefull if all people involved in the testing and use of 
> the first batch of prototype ASICs could get together for a phone meeting 
> preferably on this Wednesday 16 May. If you wish to join in please give your 
> availability or alternate possibilities.
>
> The ASICs are expected from MOSIS June 20.
>
> We will stick with the OCQFN package for the prototype runs.
>
> Test socket for this package from E-tec is $ 680 for 1 or $ 510 for 2 
> delivery 4-5 weeks
>
> We would preferr to test all the ASICs before installation on daughterboard 
> cards.
>
> John
>
>  > Hall D Electronics:
>   
>> On Fri, 11 May 2007, James Pinfold wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jim, Lars, and John,
>>
>> okay i think we have a very clear case of not to great communication here.
>> Jim of course what you say about the contract is 100% true, but because of
>> various reasons, which I think email is not the right way to discuss them,
>> the preamp board design for the FDC and the cdc has been done here at
>> JLAB by Fernando.
>>
>> As you might know I have a phone conversation with Lars and John this
>> afternoon and than I propose that we will have a common call as I
>> suggested beginning of the week with all parties to streamline the
>> process.
>>
>> Before this phone conference I want the following information.
>>
>> ----> which testing on the chips is needed to check the chips are good
>>       and that we get all the data to go into a second production in FY08
>>       this list should include also manpower and time estimates
>>       It should also take into account that we have to repeat some of this
>>       process for the 2nd and final production
>>
>> ----> after that is done we have a phone call and decide who does what,
>>       if things after the long delay are done more efficiently as is
>>       described in the contract fine with me, than we change the contract
>>       accordingly
>>
>> I really insist on that we follow this procedure as money and manpower is
>> unfortunately not existing in unlimited quantities and we are behind
>> schedule.
>>
>> regards
>> elke
>>
>>     
>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:59:04 -0600
>>> From: James Pinfold <pinfold@phys.ualberta.ca>
>>> To: Fernando J. Barbosa <barbosa@jlab.org>, Elton Smith <elton@jlab.org>,
>>>      Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
>>> Cc: Mitch Newcomer <mitch@hep.upenn.edu>, Lars Holm 
>>>       
> <lars@phys.ualberta.ca>,
>   
>>>      halld-electronics@jlab.org
>>> Subject: Re: Change of Shipping address
>>>
>>> Hi Fernando, Mitch, Elton,
>>>
>>> The plan we laid out is include in the attached document
>>> That is the basis of the current funding for this project.
>>> Please check section called "Revised Plan" which has the latest
>>> version of the plan.
>>>
>>> We are over budget on this plan because of:
>>> A) Greater than estimated charges for Mitch's student
>>> B) Greater cost of the ASICs
>>> C) etc.
>>>
>>> Also we are way behind the timeline envisaged in the plan.
>>> This is because the development of the ASIC took longer than envisaged -
>>> c'est la vie.
>>>
>>> In this plan Alberta's responsibility was in the development of the 
>>>       
> preamp
>   
>>> Card and in its testing. Of course this workd would have been carried 
>>>       
> out in
>   
>>> strong and close collaboration with the detectors groups concerned. 
>>>       
> Mitch of
>   
>>> course was going to do the acceptance testing.  As we have Lars and Jan 
>>>       
> here
>   
>>> I believe this is still a realistic option although now we will be 
>>>       
> building
>   
>>> on a good first step. But perhaps we should discuss this.
>>>
>>> I suggest I talk to Lars Holm and we arrange a phone discussion on the
>>> issues laid out above as well as Elton's question,
>>> some time next week. If you agree could you send Lars & Jan your 
>>>       
> available
>   
>>> times.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/11/07 7:24 AM, "Fernando J. Barbosa" <barbosa@jlab.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi Elton,
>>>>
>>>>     According to my email, no. Perhaps Elke can shine some light into
>>>> the subject.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Fernando
>>>>
>>>> Elton Smith wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> HI Fernando,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a little confused. Will there be any testing at Alberta?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Elton.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Elton Smith
>>>>> Jefferson Lab MS 12H5
>>>>> 12000 Jefferson Ave
>>>>> Suite # 16
>>>>> Newport News, VA 23606
>>>>> elton@jlab.org
>>>>> (757) 269-7625
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2007, Fernando J. Barbosa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi Mitch,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The BIS-711 export control form has been completed and faxed to 
>>>>>>             
> Jim
>   
>>>>>> Cousins at MOSIS.
>>>>>> The following is a tentative outline of the next steps:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.    The chips will be shipped to you for testing.
>>>>>> 2.    After testing, these will be shipped to Jlab to be assembled 
>>>>>>             
> onto
>   
>>>>>> the preamp cards.
>>>>>> 3.    The preamp cards are being designed at Jlab for further tests 
>>>>>>             
> on
>   
>>>>>> the prototype FDC and CDC wire chambers.
>>>>>> 4.    I will circulate a test spec sheet that we can use for 
>>>>>>             
> qualifying
>   
>>>>>> the chips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if there are other steps that need to be 
>>>>>>             
> considered
>   
>>>>>> at this time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitch Newcomer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Design   77419  (GAS-1)
>>>>>>> Fab-ID is T74LAB
>>>>>>> PO: 0000087100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RE>>>>The project will be shipped to:
>>>>>>>      Dr. J. PINFOLD   C/O SUZETTE CHAN
>>>>>>>      UNIV. OF ALBERTA CENTRAL RECEIVING
>>>>>>>      MATERIAL MGT. BUILDING CEB 445
>>>>>>>      116 STREET & 85 AVENUE
>>>>>>>      EDMOND AB  T6G 2R3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please ship all 40  parts to the following US address:
>>>>>>>           Mitch Newcomer
>>>>>>>           University of Pennsylvania
>>>>>>>           209 S 33rd St,
>>>>>>>           Philadelphia, PA  19104
>>>>>>>               These parts will be bench tested at Penn before 
>>>>>>>               
> assembly
>   
>>>>>>> on boards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitch Newcomer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>           
>>>       
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