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Re: PID meeting 14/15 of May



Hall D PID Mail List:

On Mon, 7 May 2007, Matthew Shepherd wrote:

Dear Matt,

thanks, for the fast feedback. Actually as we have a room with polycom,
hopefully working, but I will test it. Mihajlo can definetely join the
meeting, we can even see him if he would like.

I will send the information how to connect around thursday or friday, I
have unfortnately 1.5 days safety course starting tomorrow.

cheers elke



> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:19:10 -0400
> From: Matthew Shepherd <mashephe@indiana.edu>
> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> Cc: halld-pid@jlab.org, halld-cal@jlab.org
> Subject: Re: PID meeting 14/15 of May
>
>
> Hi Elke,
>
>  From Indiana, Beni, Alex, and I will be there.  Mihajlo will
> certainly join in discussion by phone.  We will have a local mtg.
> here Wed to evaluate our progress and discuss our talks, but they
> will be along the lines of what you suggest.  We can then give you
> names/topics of people to put on the agenda.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
>
> > Hall D PID Mail List:
> >
> > On Mon, 7 May 2007, Zisis Papandreou wrote:
> >
> > Dear Zisis,
> >
> > thanks for the quick answer. I think a report on the status quo
> > would be a
> > good thing, because it will help to discuss how to improve things.
> > Mihajlo
> > if you are ready to present your findings on the bcal photon
> > reconstruction, absolutely perfect and more than welcome.
> >
> > I have reserved a room with a standard jlab polycom system for both
> > days,
> > so things should work, nicer than with my DESY (!) laptop.
> >
> > cheers elke
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:10:11 -0600
> >> From: Zisis Papandreou <zisis@uregina.ca>
> >> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> >> Cc: halld-pid@jlab.org, halld-cal@jlab.org
> >> Subject: Re: PID meeting 14/15 of May
> >>
> >> Hi Elke:
> >>
> >> just a clarification of what you expect from us at Regina.
> >>
> >> Under item 1, BCAL reconstruction, the only thing we can present is
> >> the status quo of the effort at Regina, as of July 2006.  There has
> >> been no work done since then.  Mihajlo at IU is starting to work on
> >> the BCAL reconstruction, so we need to hear from him if he will have
> >> something to present by May 14.  Nevertheless, it may be instructive
> >> for me to give a short reminder on the work that had been done in
> >> Regina, by our long gone postdocs.
> >>
> >> Also, what sort of system will we have for video conferencing?  If it
> >> is something decent (not Evo through your laptop), then maybe Blake
> >> and Christina can present their own work.  If not, then George and I
> >> need to work with them towards the two of us giving the
> >> presentations.
> >>
> >> Please let us know what you expect for all this.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Zisis...
> >>
> >> On May 7, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> next week Monday and Tuesday is close and i think we need an agenda
> >>> for
> >>> the meeting. Following the developments and efforts in the last
> >>> weeks,
> >>> I think an agenda should look roughly like this.
> >>>
> >>> 1. pi0 reconstruction in the calorimeters         Monday morning /
> >>> early afternoon
> >>>
> >>>    FCAL status of simulation and reconstruction of photons/pi0
> >>> Mihajlo
> >>>    BCAL
> >>>    status of simulation and reconstruction of photons/pi0  George/
> >>> Zisis
> >>>    analysis of test beam data                              George/
> >>> Zisis
> >>>    analysis of cosmic data                                 Christina
> >>>
> >>> 2. TOF                                            Monday afternoon
> >>>    -- tof wall                                             Matt/Beni
> >>>       status of simulation and test beam measurements
> >>>       what momentum resolution do we need, plans
> >>>
> >>>   -- Bcal
> >>>      analysis of test beam data                            Blake
> >>>
> >>> Tuesday morning
> >>>
> >>> 3. what does the new material in the FCs do to shower
> >>> reconstruction      Richard
> >>>
> >>> 4. Kaon identification                                     Eugene
> >>>    --- what does a cerenkov or a rich give us
> >>>    --- do we need Kaon identification in the non-forward regime
> >>>    --- what will kinematic fitting and strangeness conservation
> >>> help us
> >>>
> >>> Discussions:
> >>>
> >>> 5. What needs/can be done till the calorimeter July meeting
> >>>
> >>> 6. when are we ready for a PID review
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know I have assigned people as speakers without asking, this are
> >>> only
> >>> suggestions, of course things can be changed. Just complain to me
> >>> and I
> >>> will update things.
> >>>
> >>> cheers elke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:10:32 -0400 (EDT)
> >>>> From: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> >>>> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> >>>> Cc: halld-pid@jlab.org, halld-cal@jlab.org
> >>>> Subject: PID meeting 14/15 of May
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> as preparation for the PID meeting I list here some points, also
> >>>> discussed with Eugene and Alex.
> >>>> I think to have answers to some of the point is crucial to make
> >>>> the PID
> >>>> meeting useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Have the BCAL TOF analysis for the different angles and
> >>>> positions along
> >>>>    the bcal module taken
> >>>>    ----> having this information is really critical, because it
> >>>> will allow
> >>>>          us to see what type of pion - kaon separation we have for
> >>>> big
> >>>>          angles.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. It would be also very nice to have some information from the
> >>>> BCal
> >>>>    cosmic data.
> >>>>    ----> I think I have understood correctly that the cosmic data
> >>>> have not
> >>>>          only be sampled for 90 degree but also other angles.
> >>>>          This will help us to see the fluctuations in light yield,
> >>>> which
> >>>>          should influence also the time of flight
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. For the threshold Cerenkov, it is important to see what is
> >>>> really
> >>>>    the suppression factor we can achieve and for some golden
> >>>> processes it
> >>>>    is also important to see how often is the Kaon really in the
> >>>> Cerenkov.
> >>>>    ----> because depending on the suppression factor we might
> >>>> need to
> >>>>          think about an different concept than a threshold
> >>>> cerenkov and
> >>>>          if we cannot separate Kaon and pion's with the bcal
> >>>> tof, we
> >>>>          might want to think about an additional detector at big
> >>>> angles
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. we need some better characterization for dE/dx from the CDC
> >>>>
> >>>> 5. On the software front it would be nice to get some TOF
> >>>> responses into
> >>>>    the MC
> >>>>
> >>>> 6. to study the impact of kinematical fits/constraints it would be
> >>>> good
> >>>>    to get the bcal photon/pi0 reconstruction in the MC working.
> >>>>
> >>>> And last but not least we have to determine some golden reactions
> >>>> which we
> >>>> want to test the pid performance on, but even more important we
> >>>> need
> >>>> simulations with background.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure a lot of more can be added, but I think it is good to
> >>>> start with
> >>>> the minimum requirements.
> >>>>
> >>>> cheers elke
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  ( `,_' )+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=
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> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>   )    `\                                                  -
> >>>  /    '. |                                                  +
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> >>> +=-+=-+
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Dr. Zisis Papandreou		|  email: zisis@uregina.ca
> >> Department of Physics	|  tel. : (306) 585-5379
> >> University of Regina		|  tel. : (306) 585-4149
> >> Regina, SK  S4S 0A2		|  fax. : (306) 585-5659
> >> World Wide Web:    http://www.phys.uregina.ca/sparro/zisis/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >  |       `,              Elke-Caroline Aschenauer            =
> >   \,_  `-/                                                    -
> >   ,&&&&&V         Jefferson Lab                                +
> >  ,&&&&&&&&:       HALL-D 12C / F381       121-A Atlantic Avenue =
> > ,&&&&&&&&&&;      Mailstop: 12H5          Hampton, VA 23664      -
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> >             +=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-
> > +=-+=-+
> >
>
>

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 |       `,              Elke-Caroline Aschenauer            =
  \,_  `-/                                                    -
  ,&&&&&V         Jefferson Lab                                +
 ,&&&&&&&&:       HALL-D 12C / F381       121-A Atlantic Avenue =
,&&&&&&&&&&;      Mailstop: 12H5          Hampton, VA 23664      -
|  |&&&&&&&;\     12000 Jefferson Ave                             +
|  |       :_) _  Newport News, VA 23606  Tel.:  001-757-224-1216  =
|  |       ;--' | Mail:  elke@jlab.org    Mobil: 001-757-256-5224   -
'--'   `-.--.   |                                                    +
   \_    |  |---' Tel.:  001-757-269-5352                             =
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