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Re: CDC Layout



On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Fernando J. Barbosa wrote:

Dear Fernando and Curtis,

the 3500 straws will be an increase in cost. I have budget everythig for 
3300, it will be 200 more. this means 25 asics, 8 more preamp-cards 
HV-cards and 3 FADCc. I think it is not a big deal, but needs to be 
accounted for. I'm not sure, but maybe at a certain moment we might want 
to put in a CR to have things accounted correctly.

But I have a different question, I totally understand more layers are 
nices for tracking, but do we get more problems with the cabeling. Because 
we wil have to make even more connections on a limited space.

cheers elke


> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:05:59 -0500
> From: Fernando J. Barbosa <barbosa@jlab.org>
> To: Curtis A. Meyer <cmeyer@ernest.phys.cmu.edu>
> Cc: GlueX Tracking <tracking@gluex.org>, Vladislav Razmyslovich <vgr@jlab.org>
> Subject: Re: CDC Layout
> 
> Hi Curtis,
>
> Just to check the numbers, the 3,500 channels correspond to 146 preamp cards 
> or an increase of 16 preamp cards over the previous number (130). This 
> implies an additional 16 HV channels (1 module of A1535P), 6 additional 
> fADC125's and possibly an additional VXS crate. This requires $35k-$45k in 
> additional funds for the electronics.
>
> Best regards,
> Fernando
>
>
>
> Curtis A. Meyer wrote:
>> Hi Everyone -
>>
>>   based on the dicsussions that we held this morning, Yves and I changed 
>> the layout rules for wire spacing. We now do the following:
>>
>>   1) Nominal Tube OD is 1.5875 cm
>>   2) We require a spacing of at least 150 microns and no more than
>>       200 microns between straws.
>>   3) We allowed layer 1 to move in from 10.95cm to 10.69 cm (wire
>>       position) --- 2.6 mm
>> 
>> We can now get 28 layers with 3500 wires in the allocated space. The
>> wire position of the 28'th layer is at 54.488cm.
>> 
>> If we loosen rule (2) to be 150 to 225, we can leave layer 1 at 10.95
>> cm, layer 28 will be at 54.737 and we will have 3528 wires. We pretty
>> much shifted things out by the 2.6 mm and picked up 28 channels.
>> 
>> Unless people scream a lot, we would like to go with the first option
>> (3500 channels). The information on that is as given in the following.
>> 
>> Curtis and Yves 
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Global Information:
>>
>>  Tube radius: 0.801250
>> Instrumented Layers   is 28
>> Instrumented Channels is 3500
>> layer number radius(center) radius(plate) stereo
>>   $ 1$ & $ 42$ & $ 10.692$ & $ 10.692$ & $ 0.000$ & $ 10.692$ \\
>>   $ 2$ & $ 42$ & $ 12.046$ & $ 12.046$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.354$ \\
>>   $ 3$ & $ 54$ & $ 13.757$ & $ 13.757$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.711$ \\
>>   $ 4$ & $ 54$ & $ 15.119$ & $ 15.119$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.362$ \\
>>   $ 5$ & $ 66$ & $ 16.913$ & $ 18.659$ & $ 0.105$ & $  1.794$ \\
>>   $ 6$ & $ 66$ & $ 18.288$ & $ 20.176$ & $ 0.113$ & $  1.375$ \\
>>   $ 7$ & $ 79$ & $ 20.312$ & $ 21.787$ & $ 0.105$ & $  2.024$ \\
>>   $ 8$ & $ 79$ & $ 21.694$ & $ 23.270$ & $ 0.112$ & $  1.383$ \\
>>   $ 9$ & $ 92$ & $ 23.600$ & $ 24.882$ & $-0.105$ & $  1.906$ \\
>>   $10$ & $ 92$ & $ 24.982$ & $ 26.338$ & $-0.111$ & $  1.382$ \\
>>   $11$ & $105$ & $ 26.919$ & $ 28.049$ & $-0.105$ & $  1.937$ \\
>>   $12$ & $105$ & $ 28.302$ & $ 29.490$ & $-0.110$ & $  1.383$ \\
>>   $13$ & $122$ & $ 31.124$ & $ 31.124$ & $ 0.000$ & $  2.822$ \\
>>   $14$ & $122$ & $ 32.502$ & $ 32.502$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.378$ \\
>>   $15$ & $134$ & $ 34.170$ & $ 34.170$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.668$ \\
>>   $16$ & $134$ & $ 35.548$ & $ 35.548$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.378$ \\
>>   $17$ & $145$ & $ 37.179$ & $ 38.006$ & $-0.105$ & $  1.632$ \\
>>   $18$ & $145$ & $ 38.566$ & $ 39.423$ & $-0.109$ & $  1.386$ \\
>>   $19$ & $157$ & $ 40.272$ & $ 41.036$ & $-0.105$ & $  1.706$ \\
>>   $20$ & $157$ & $ 41.660$ & $ 42.450$ & $-0.108$ & $  1.388$ \\
>>   $21$ & $169$ & $ 43.351$ & $ 44.062$ & $ 0.105$ & $  1.691$ \\
>>   $22$ & $169$ & $ 44.739$ & $ 45.473$ & $ 0.108$ & $  1.388$ \\
>>   $23$ & $181$ & $ 46.421$ & $ 47.086$ & $ 0.105$ & $  1.682$ \\
>>   $24$ & $181$ & $ 47.810$ & $ 48.494$ & $ 0.108$ & $  1.389$ \\
>>   $25$ & $196$ & $ 50.116$ & $ 50.116$ & $ 0.000$ & $  2.306$ \\
>>   $26$ & $196$ & $ 51.501$ & $ 51.501$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.385$ \\
>>   $27$ & $208$ & $ 53.105$ & $ 53.105$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.605$ \\
>>   $28$ & $208$ & $ 54.488$ & $ 54.488$ & $ 0.000$ & $  1.383$ \\
>>
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> First hole in each layer (length in centimeters) Upstream Endplate 
>> (inside chamber)            (outside chamber)
>>  Lyr num  dPhi    r_c     r_p       x_p     y_p     z_p       x_p     y_p 
>> z_p
>>   1  42 0.14960  10.6919  10.6919 ( 10.6919  0.0000   0.00 ) ( 10.6919 
>> 0.0000  -0.95 )
>>   2  42 0.14960  12.0460  12.0460 ( 12.0123  0.9002   0.00 ) ( 12.0123 
>> 0.9002  -0.95 )
>>   3  54 0.11636  13.7569  13.7569 ( 13.7470  0.5237   0.00 ) ( 13.7470 
>> 0.5237  -0.95 )
>>   4  54 0.11636  15.1191  15.1191 ( 15.0491  1.4530   0.00 ) ( 15.0491 
>> 1.4530  -0.95 )
>>   5  65 0.09666  16.7307  18.4941 ( 16.7307  7.8813   0.00 ) ( 16.7307 
>> 7.9814  -0.95 )
>>   6  65 0.09666  18.1112  20.0201 ( 17.6779  9.3967   0.00 ) ( 17.6726 
>> 9.5049  -0.95 )
>>   7  79 0.07953  20.2489  21.7286 ( 20.3732  7.5541   0.00 ) ( 20.3748 
>> 7.6542  -0.95 )
>>   8  79 0.07953  21.6272  23.2077 ( 21.4220  8.9270   0.00 ) ( 21.4195 
>> 9.0339  -0.95 )
>>   9  92 0.06830  23.5842  24.8663 ( 23.5842 -7.8813   0.00 ) ( 23.5842 
>> -7.9814  -0.95 )
>>  10  92 0.06830  24.9651  26.3222 ( 25.2354 -7.4856   0.00 ) ( 25.2390 
>> -7.5915  -0.95 )
>>  11 104 0.06042  26.8017  27.9365 ( 26.7313 -8.1169   0.00 ) ( 26.7304 
>> -8.2170  -0.95 )
>>  12 104 0.06042  28.1916  29.3852 ( 28.3625 -7.6847   0.00 ) ( 28.3648 
>> -7.7899  -0.95 )
>>  13 122 0.05150  31.2679  31.2679 ( 31.2662 -0.3247   0.00 ) ( 31.2662 
>> -0.3247  -0.95 )
>>  14 122 0.05150  32.6520  32.6520 ( 32.6481  0.5017   0.00 ) ( 32.6481 
>> 0.5017  -0.95 )
>>  15 134 0.04689  34.2552  34.2552 ( 34.2544  0.2312   0.00 ) ( 34.2544 
>> 0.2312  -0.95 )
>>  16 134 0.04689  35.6366  35.6366 ( 35.6204  1.0758   0.00 ) ( 35.6204 
>> 1.0758  -0.95 )
>>  17 145 0.04333  37.2487  38.0733 ( 37.3593 -7.3388   0.00 ) ( 37.3608 
>> -7.4389  -0.95 )
>>  18 145 0.04333  38.6376  39.4931 ( 38.9083 -6.7711   0.00 ) ( 38.9120 
>> -6.8749  -0.95 )
>>  19 157 0.04002  40.3422  41.1049 ( 40.2962 -8.1133   0.00 ) ( 40.2957 
>> -8.2134  -0.95 )
>>  20 157 0.04002  41.7323  42.5212 ( 41.8443 -7.5571   0.00 ) ( 41.8457 
>> -7.6607  -0.95 )
>>  21 169 0.03718  43.4265  44.1359 ( 43.3664  8.2059   0.00 ) ( 43.3656 
>> 8.3060  -0.95 )
>>  22 169 0.03718  44.8172  45.5493 ( 44.5899  9.2992   0.00 ) ( 44.5872 
>> 9.4024  -0.95 )
>>  23 181 0.03471  46.4992  47.1624 ( 46.5878  7.3398   0.00 ) ( 46.5889 
>> 7.4399  -0.95 )
>>  24 181 0.03471  47.8901  48.5731 ( 47.8428  8.3910   0.00 ) ( 47.8422 
>> 8.4941  -0.95 )
>>  25 197 0.03189  50.4467  50.4467 ( 50.4439 -0.5335   0.00 ) ( 50.4439 
>> -0.5335  -0.95 )
>>  26 197 0.03189  51.8336  51.8336 ( 51.8329  0.2784   0.00 ) ( 51.8329 
>> 0.2784  -0.95 )
>>  27 209 0.03006  53.4403  53.4403 ( 53.4393  0.3198   0.00 ) ( 53.4393 
>> 0.3198  -0.95 )
>>  28 209 0.03006  54.8255  54.8255 ( 54.8134  1.1521   0.00 ) ( 54.8134 
>> 1.1521  -0.95 )
>> First hole in each layer  (length in centimeter) Downstream Endplate 
>> (inside chamber)            (outside chamber)
>>  Lyr num  dPhi    r_c     r_p       x_p     y_p     z_p       x_p     y_p 
>> z_p
>>   1  42 0.14960 10.6919 10.6919 ( 10.6919  0.0000 150.00 ) ( 10.6919 
>> 0.0000 150.60 )
>>   2  42 0.14960 12.0460 12.0460 ( 12.0123  0.9002 150.00 ) ( 12.0123 
>> 0.9002 150.60 )
>>   3  54 0.11636 13.7569 13.7569 ( 13.7470  0.5237 150.00 ) ( 13.7470 
>> 0.5237 150.60 )
>>   4  54 0.11636 15.1191 15.1191 ( 15.0491  1.4530 150.00 ) ( 15.0491 
>> 1.4530 150.60 )
>>   5  65 0.09666 16.7307 18.4941 ( 16.7307 -7.8813 150.00 ) ( 16.7307 
>> -7.9444 150.60 )
>>   6  65 0.09666 18.1112 20.0201 ( 18.5023 -7.6467 150.00 ) ( 18.5056 
>> -7.7148 150.60 )
>>   7  79 0.07953 20.2489 21.7286 ( 20.1193 -8.2065 150.00 ) ( 20.1183 
>> -8.2695 150.60 )
>>   8  79 0.07953 21.6272 23.2077 ( 21.8203 -7.9039 150.00 ) ( 21.8219 
>> -7.9712 150.60 )
>>   9  92 0.06830 23.5842 24.8663 ( 23.5842  7.8813 150.00 ) ( 23.5842 
>> 7.9444 150.60 )
>>  10  92 0.06830 24.9651 26.3222 ( 24.6657  9.1903 150.00 ) ( 24.6635 
>> 9.2570 150.60 )
>>  11 104 0.06042 26.8017 27.9365 ( 26.8700  7.6452 150.00 ) ( 26.8706 
>> 7.7082 150.60 )
>>  12 104 0.06042 28.1916 29.3852 ( 28.0076  8.8916 150.00 ) ( 28.0062 
>> 8.9579 150.60 )
>>  13 122 0.05150 31.2679 31.2679 ( 31.2662 -0.3247 150.00 ) ( 31.2662 
>> -0.3247 150.60 )
>>  14 122 0.05150 32.6520 32.6520 ( 32.6481  0.5017 150.00 ) ( 32.6481 
>> 0.5017 150.60 )
>>  15 134 0.04689 34.2552 34.2552 ( 34.2544  0.2312 150.00 ) ( 34.2544 
>> 0.2312 150.60 )
>>  16 134 0.04689 35.6366 35.6366 ( 35.6204  1.0758 150.00 ) ( 35.6204 
>> 1.0758 150.60 )
>>  17 145 0.04333 37.2487 38.0733 ( 37.1301  8.4222 150.00 ) ( 37.1292 
>> 8.4852 150.60 )
>>  18 145 0.04333 38.6376 39.4931 ( 38.3164  9.5686 150.00 ) ( 38.3140 
>> 9.6339 150.60 )
>>  19 157 0.04002 40.3422 41.1049 ( 40.3869  7.6491 150.00 ) ( 40.3873 
>> 7.7121 150.60 )
>>  20 157 0.04002 41.7323 42.5212 ( 41.6118  8.7470 150.00 ) ( 41.6109 
>> 8.8122 150.60 )
>>  21 169 0.03718 43.4265 44.1359 ( 43.4843 -7.5563 150.00 ) ( 43.4847 
>> -7.6193 150.60 )
>>  22 169 0.03718 44.8172 45.5493 ( 45.0140 -6.9627 150.00 ) ( 45.0156 
>> -7.0278 150.60 )
>>  23 181 0.03471 46.4992 47.1624 ( 46.4044 -8.4218 150.00 ) ( 46.4037 
>> -8.4848 150.60 )
>>  24 181 0.03471 47.8901 48.5731 ( 47.9357 -7.8429 150.00 ) ( 47.9361 
>> -7.9078 150.60 )
>>  25 197 0.03189 50.4467 50.4467 ( 50.4439 -0.5335 150.00 ) ( 50.4439 
>> -0.5335 150.60 )
>>  26 197 0.03189 51.8336 51.8336 ( 51.8329  0.2784 150.00 ) ( 51.8329 
>> 0.2784 150.60 )
>>  27 209 0.03006 53.4403 53.4403 ( 53.4393  0.3198 150.00 ) ( 53.4393 
>> 0.3198 150.60 )
>>  28 209 0.03006 54.8255 54.8255 ( 54.8134  1.1521 150.00 ) ( 54.8134 
>> 1.1521 150.60 )
>>
>>

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