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Re: robot for circuit boards
Hall D Electronics:
On Thu, 31 May 2007, Paul Smith wrote:
Dear Paul,
thank you very much for the answer. I know about the discussion last year.
I'm sorry to start it again, but 17k$ is a lot of money and I must say
that a machine for 190k$ to build 100 CW-bases and 60 atlas boards, makes
the boards very expensive. I'm sorry to say this, but to buy this machine
was from a commercial point of view a not too great decission.
I think we should do something with it, because I'm not willing to sign a
new maintenace contract after this one is due if we don't have a plan how
to use this machine at least 6/12 month.
We don't need a decission right now, but I want to bring it up, so we can
find a solution which makes everybody happy and we spend our money in a
more efficient way.
I welcome any suggestion/solution.
cheers elke
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:59:54 -0400
> From: Paul Smith <ptsmith@indiana.edu>
> To: Elke-Caroline Aschenauer <elke@jlab.org>
> Cc: halld-electronics@jlab.org, Elton Smith <elton@jlab.org>,
> Chris Cuevas <cuevas@jlab.org>, Matthew Shepherd <mashephe@indiana.edu>,
> Alex Dzierba <dzierba@indiana.edu>, Hal Evans <hgevans@indiana.edu>
> Subject: Re: robot for circuit boards
>
> Hi Elke,
>
> There was a fair amount of discussion of this about a year ago when I
> started my new job, but it's certainly reasonable to revisit the issue.
>
> This machine was originally purchased by JLab and loaned to IU to
> evaluate robotic electronics assembly and to build prototype
> Cockcroft-Walton bases for the FCal - 100 were made. We had planned
> to then use it for prototype flash ADCs, but that project was delayed
> and eventually taken over by JLab.
>
> Chris Cuevas wanted to move the machine to JLab maybe 1.5 years ago,
> but there wasn't any money to pay for moving it (there was an
> estimate from BeamWorks, the manufacturer, for $30K to move it), and
> there was also some question of where to put it at JLab; it needs
> compressed air, 240 volts, and is fairly noisy.
>
> IU inquired about buying it from JLab for the estimated value after
> depreciation (also ~$30K at that time), but that didn't seem to go
> anywhere. Another option that was discussed was for JLab to buy a
> new machine and trade this one in as part of the transaction; IU
> would then buy this one from BeamWorks.
>
> In the fall of 2006, Elton agreed to renew the maintenance contract
> and leave the machine at IU for the time being. I used it recently
> to build 64 boards for ATLAS. It is available at IU for use by JLab,
> but there haven't been any requests to do so yet.
>
> Based on my experience, I don't think it makes sense to eventually
> build 3000+ FCal Cockcroft-Walton bases with the machine, but it
> would be extremely useful for repair and rework of the bases.
>
> The machine does need regular preventive maintenance and has had a
> few failed parts replaced, so if one stops paying for the maintenance
> contract it will certainly stop working at some point.
>
> I can discuss further by email or telephone at any time.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On May 30, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Elke-Caroline Aschenauer wrote:
>
> > Hall D Electronics:
> >
> >
> > Dear Mitch, Fernando, Paul, Chris and Gerard,
> >
> > okay, I learned today that some time ago we bought a "robot" to
> > assemble
> > circuit boards, we are still paying the maintenance costs (17k$/year).
> > Paul are you using it at the moment for anything.
> > If not is the need from Gerard or is there either need at JLAB or at
> > Mitch's place.
> >
> > I'm sure Paul can give any detail needed on the robot. I'm writing
> > as I'm
> > a bit concerned about having a 100k$ machine sitting there and
> > paying in
> > addition 17k$/year for maintenance.
> >
> > So please tell me if one of you could use the robot.
> >
> > cheers elke
> >
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