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Re: Cross talk



Hi Fernando,

> You are right, I was thinking of cosmics for the coincidence trigger or 
> perhaps Sr90 and the coincidence to remove accidentals/background. Did you 
> ever get a Sr90 source?
We do have some weak Sr-90 sources - i never did measurements with them, 
but Curtis might have before I was here. I could do measurements with 
the Sr-90 source later on.

Cheers,
 	Yves




>
> Regards,
> Fernando
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>> Cheers,
>>     Yves
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>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Fernando J. Barbosa wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Yves,
>>> 
>>> I looked at the plots you just posted and I have a  few questions.
>>> 
>>> For crosstalk, you are plotting the peak amplitude distributions for the 
>>> whole data run, I believe. You need to compare the peak amplitudes on an 
>>> event-by-event basis, e.g., compare peak amplitude on ch1 to ch2 for event 
>>> 1, and repeat for the other events. The best way to do this is to get a 
>>> scatter plot. Applying a fit to the scatter plot, should yield a straight 
>>> horizontal line (or vertical) [meaning independence between channels] for 
>>> zero crosstalk or a line with a slope for any crosstalk. The slope is the 
>>> crosstalk, say volts in ch1 to volts in ch2. You will need a plot for each 
>>> channel adjacent to the straw with the source.
>>> 
>>> For the raw ADC data, one event per plot, it seems that the noise is very 
>>> low and that is a good thing. Now, when you take this data and plot the 
>>> amplitude distribution do you apply a threshold cut? For instance, I see 
>>> that the baseline or pedestal is at about ADC channel 650 - do you exclude 
>>> all the samples below this value? It would also be interesting to see how 
>>> the amplitude distributions change with different  threshold cuts.
>>> 
>>> For the "energy" plots, it seems that these plots follow the same trend as 
>>> those plots under  "Different-HV" which is good. But I still don't 
>>> understand why the shape - it should look like a Poisson distribution or 
>>> more properly a Landau distribution. What I see is that the low level 
>>> amplitude tail gets proportionally smaller with increasing HV, as a result 
>>> of perhaps higher S/N ratio. This may be artificial, of course, due to 
>>> higher occurrence of limited streamer pulses or higher gain (more signals 
>>> above the trigger threshold).
>>> 
>>> It would be nice if you could form a trigger by using the coincidence of 
>>> two overlapping straws, as I mentioned in a previous email.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Fernando
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> As a follow up from the meeting this after noon. I posted some 
>>>> peak-amplitude spectra on the wiki concerning cross talk. One can see 
>>>> that there is some measurable electronic cross talk between adjacent 
>>>> channels on the HV-board.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-D/software/wiki/index.php/ASIC_design_optimizations#Cross_talk 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>     Yves
>>>>
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